Comments on: BMW To Bring Double-Clutch transmission To 3 Series Next Year http://www.bimmerfile.com/2008/02/15/bmw-to-bring-double-clutch-transmission-to-3-series-next-year/ BMW News & Opinion, BMW M3, BMW 1M, BMW 1 Series, BMW 3 Series, BMW 5 Series, BMW X5, BMW X6, BMW X3, BMW i Sat, 11 Feb 2012 04:12:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Amazing desktop gallery » Blog Archive » BMW To Bring Double-Clutch transmission To 3 Series Next Year http://www.bimmerfile.com/2008/02/15/bmw-to-bring-double-clutch-transmission-to-3-series-next-year/comment-page-1/#comment-3838 Amazing desktop gallery » Blog Archive » BMW To Bring Double-Clutch transmission To 3 Series Next Year Wed, 03 Dec 2008 12:58:47 +0000 http://www.bimmerfile.com/2008/02/15/bmw-to-bring-double-clutch-transmission-to-3-series-next-year/#comment-3838 <p>[...] Source: BimmerFile.com [...]</p> [...] Source: BimmerFile.com [...]

]]> By: BENI http://www.bimmerfile.com/2008/02/15/bmw-to-bring-double-clutch-transmission-to-3-series-next-year/comment-page-1/#comment-3286 BENI Sun, 19 Oct 2008 04:58:10 +0000 http://www.bimmerfile.com/2008/02/15/bmw-to-bring-double-clutch-transmission-to-3-series-next-year/#comment-3286 <p>THANK THE GODS FOR DUAL CLUTCH BMW 3 SERIES! NOW I HAVE A REAL REASON TO BUY IT!</p> <p>RWD BEST engines DCT HANDLING</p> <p>Muahahahhahahahahaaaaaaa</p> THANK THE GODS FOR DUAL CLUTCH BMW 3 SERIES! NOW I HAVE A REAL REASON TO BUY IT!

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]]> By: Scott http://www.bimmerfile.com/2008/02/15/bmw-to-bring-double-clutch-transmission-to-3-series-next-year/comment-page-1/#comment-3152 Scott Fri, 03 Oct 2008 00:32:16 +0000 http://www.bimmerfile.com/2008/02/15/bmw-to-bring-double-clutch-transmission-to-3-series-next-year/#comment-3152 <p>I recent drove a 2008 M3 with DCT - amazing! Can't wait until DCT makes its way into the 335. DCT blows the steptronic in my 2007 3er away.</p> I recent drove a 2008 M3 with DCT – amazing! Can’t wait until DCT makes its way into the 335. DCT blows the steptronic in my 2007 3er away.

]]> By: BimmerFile » Archive » DCT confirmed for the 3 http://www.bimmerfile.com/2008/02/15/bmw-to-bring-double-clutch-transmission-to-3-series-next-year/comment-page-1/#comment-1553 BimmerFile » Archive » DCT confirmed for the 3 Fri, 04 Jul 2008 13:08:23 +0000 http://www.bimmerfile.com/2008/02/15/bmw-to-bring-double-clutch-transmission-to-3-series-next-year/#comment-1553 <p>[...] we originally stated back in February and reiterated in [...]</p> [...] we originally stated back in February and reiterated in [...]

]]> By: Rubber Ducky http://www.bimmerfile.com/2008/02/15/bmw-to-bring-double-clutch-transmission-to-3-series-next-year/comment-page-1/#comment-594 Rubber Ducky Tue, 25 Mar 2008 22:37:33 +0000 http://www.bimmerfile.com/2008/02/15/bmw-to-bring-double-clutch-transmission-to-3-series-next-year/#comment-594 <p>Correction on my post above regarding price of M-DCT. Posted price at BMWUSA is $2700. That's a bit more than double price of Step in 3-series, but if the 3-series version is detuned from the M-DCT (fewer levels of auto and manual modes, for example), the price could range towards the current Step.</p> <p>Step with paddles exclusively is addictive, very quick, and very very flexible. The DCT would be a technology transplant with a little faster (.1 - .2 sec.) 0-60 time. Remains to be seen if it is lightning fast or a clunker like SMG. If fast as Step, great move to replace Step with DCT.</p> Correction on my post above regarding price of M-DCT. Posted price at BMWUSA is $2700. That’s a bit more than double price of Step in 3-series, but if the 3-series version is detuned from the M-DCT (fewer levels of auto and manual modes, for example), the price could range towards the current Step.

Step with paddles exclusively is addictive, very quick, and very very flexible. The DCT would be a technology transplant with a little faster (.1 – .2 sec.) 0-60 time. Remains to be seen if it is lightning fast or a clunker like SMG. If fast as Step, great move to replace Step with DCT.

]]> By: my.IS - Lexus IS Forum - BMW To Bring Double-Clutch transmission To 3 Series Next Year http://www.bimmerfile.com/2008/02/15/bmw-to-bring-double-clutch-transmission-to-3-series-next-year/comment-page-1/#comment-418 my.IS - Lexus IS Forum - BMW To Bring Double-Clutch transmission To 3 Series Next Year Wed, 05 Mar 2008 05:20:28 +0000 http://www.bimmerfile.com/2008/02/15/bmw-to-bring-double-clutch-transmission-to-3-series-next-year/#comment-418 <p>[...] BimmerFile</p> [...] BimmerFile

]]> By: TMQ http://www.bimmerfile.com/2008/02/15/bmw-to-bring-double-clutch-transmission-to-3-series-next-year/comment-page-1/#comment-412 TMQ Tue, 04 Mar 2008 21:52:00 +0000 http://www.bimmerfile.com/2008/02/15/bmw-to-bring-double-clutch-transmission-to-3-series-next-year/#comment-412 <p>The current STEP in the 335 is from ZF, which is a new version (since 2007MY), and is already wonderful. I have trouble believing that BMW will replace it this quickly. I think it's likely the DCT will show up in the new 7 series?</p> The current STEP in the 335 is from ZF, which is a new version (since 2007MY), and is already wonderful. I have trouble believing that BMW will replace it this quickly. I think it’s likely the DCT will show up in the new 7 series?

]]> By: Rubber Ducky http://www.bimmerfile.com/2008/02/15/bmw-to-bring-double-clutch-transmission-to-3-series-next-year/comment-page-1/#comment-282 Rubber Ducky Sun, 24 Feb 2008 21:22:33 +0000 http://www.bimmerfile.com/2008/02/15/bmw-to-bring-double-clutch-transmission-to-3-series-next-year/#comment-282 <p>The M-DCT looks to cost about $5000 USD, so this is a wildly pricey gadget. A watered-down version will still almost certainly cost substantially more than the already wonderful Steptronic, so I'm having trouble cheering for this admittedly advanced technology.</p> The M-DCT looks to cost about $5000 USD, so this is a wildly pricey gadget. A watered-down version will still almost certainly cost substantially more than the already wonderful Steptronic, so I’m having trouble cheering for this admittedly advanced technology.

]]> By: fdavid http://www.bimmerfile.com/2008/02/15/bmw-to-bring-double-clutch-transmission-to-3-series-next-year/comment-page-1/#comment-280 fdavid Sat, 23 Feb 2008 17:13:48 +0000 http://www.bimmerfile.com/2008/02/15/bmw-to-bring-double-clutch-transmission-to-3-series-next-year/#comment-280 <p>Good morning all. Pardon my ignorance, but can any of you explain what does dual clutch means? Feel free to make fun of me but I am lost, but very much curious and interested to learn. Thank you. D</p> Good morning all. Pardon my ignorance, but can any of you explain what does dual clutch means? Feel free to make fun of me but I am lost, but very much curious and interested to learn. Thank you. D

]]> By: Mark http://www.bimmerfile.com/2008/02/15/bmw-to-bring-double-clutch-transmission-to-3-series-next-year/comment-page-1/#comment-161 Mark Sat, 16 Feb 2008 12:41:42 +0000 http://www.bimmerfile.com/2008/02/15/bmw-to-bring-double-clutch-transmission-to-3-series-next-year/#comment-161 <p>I hope the double clutch gearbox (M Double Clutch Gearbox or "M DCG"?) will be smoother than the SMG III. I have an M3 w/SMG II and have driven M5s and M6s w/SMG III, and they're not as smooth as Audi's DSG. I'm pretty sure the DCG will be better than the SMG III since the goal of these semiautomatic gearboxes is seamless shifts.</p> I hope the double clutch gearbox (M Double Clutch Gearbox or “M DCG”?) will be smoother than the SMG III. I have an M3 w/SMG II and have driven M5s and M6s w/SMG III, and they’re not as smooth as Audi’s DSG. I’m pretty sure the DCG will be better than the SMG III since the goal of these semiautomatic gearboxes is seamless shifts.

]]> By: Chris B. http://www.bimmerfile.com/2008/02/15/bmw-to-bring-double-clutch-transmission-to-3-series-next-year/comment-page-1/#comment-160 Chris B. Sat, 16 Feb 2008 06:33:02 +0000 http://www.bimmerfile.com/2008/02/15/bmw-to-bring-double-clutch-transmission-to-3-series-next-year/#comment-160 <p>mpezzullo- I think you get the idea in what I was saying. Thanks for clearing it up for others though.</p> mpezzullo- I think you get the idea in what I was saying. Thanks for clearing it up for others though.

]]> By: Michael http://www.bimmerfile.com/2008/02/15/bmw-to-bring-double-clutch-transmission-to-3-series-next-year/comment-page-1/#comment-159 Michael Sat, 16 Feb 2008 03:39:47 +0000 http://www.bimmerfile.com/2008/02/15/bmw-to-bring-double-clutch-transmission-to-3-series-next-year/#comment-159 <p>Chris B.- "Audi is still working away ever so slowly on their DSG unit for longitudinal engine configurations (mind you DSG is a VWAG patened invention), which to my understanding won’t be on the market til 2011. Slow pokers" From what I gather DSG is not a VW patent, it is a Borg-Warner product and they hold the patent, VW had a 2-3 year exclusive agreement, you will see others adopting this transmission in the near future.</p> Chris B.- “Audi is still working away ever so slowly on their DSG unit for longitudinal engine configurations (mind you DSG is a VWAG patened invention), which to my understanding won’t be on the market til 2011. Slow pokers” From what I gather DSG is not a VW patent, it is a Borg-Warner product and they hold the patent, VW had a 2-3 year exclusive agreement, you will see others adopting this transmission in the near future.

]]> By: Gabe http://www.bimmerfile.com/2008/02/15/bmw-to-bring-double-clutch-transmission-to-3-series-next-year/comment-page-1/#comment-154 Gabe Fri, 15 Feb 2008 23:46:21 +0000 http://www.bimmerfile.com/2008/02/15/bmw-to-bring-double-clutch-transmission-to-3-series-next-year/#comment-154 <p>BMW has offered SMG on M3 since the late 90's.</p> BMW has offered SMG on M3 since the late 90′s.

]]> By: illegalprelude http://www.bimmerfile.com/2008/02/15/bmw-to-bring-double-clutch-transmission-to-3-series-next-year/comment-page-1/#comment-153 illegalprelude Fri, 15 Feb 2008 23:17:20 +0000 http://www.bimmerfile.com/2008/02/15/bmw-to-bring-double-clutch-transmission-to-3-series-next-year/#comment-153 <p>so what exactly is a double clutch? Is it anything like SMG cause I wish they would offer a SMG on the M3's</p> so what exactly is a double clutch? Is it anything like SMG cause I wish they would offer a SMG on the M3′s

]]> By: Chris B. http://www.bimmerfile.com/2008/02/15/bmw-to-bring-double-clutch-transmission-to-3-series-next-year/comment-page-1/#comment-149 Chris B. Fri, 15 Feb 2008 21:19:17 +0000 http://www.bimmerfile.com/2008/02/15/bmw-to-bring-double-clutch-transmission-to-3-series-next-year/#comment-149 <p>This is an agressive move by BMW; their most iconic car will raise the bar just that much higher in the compact luxury sport sedan segement, becoming an even more engaging and innovative product. Audi is still working away ever so slowly on their DSG unit for longitudinal engine configurations (mind you DSG is a VWAG patened invention), which to my understanding won't be on the market til 2011. Slow pokers.</p> This is an agressive move by BMW; their most iconic car will raise the bar just that much higher in the compact luxury sport sedan segement, becoming an even more engaging and innovative product. Audi is still working away ever so slowly on their DSG unit for longitudinal engine configurations (mind you DSG is a VWAG patened invention), which to my understanding won’t be on the market til 2011. Slow pokers.

]]> By: cct1 http://www.bimmerfile.com/2008/02/15/bmw-to-bring-double-clutch-transmission-to-3-series-next-year/comment-page-1/#comment-143 cct1 Fri, 15 Feb 2008 17:54:47 +0000 http://www.bimmerfile.com/2008/02/15/bmw-to-bring-double-clutch-transmission-to-3-series-next-year/#comment-143 <p>Yep, thats what happens with dual clutch setup--for everyday driving, you wind up getting lazy and let the car do the shifting. I wrote something to the effect that DSG/DCT is something gained, something lost (and got bashed a bit for the sentiment), but losing the clutch does take away from the driving experience. On the track, the DSG is great, but you lose something day to day.</p> Yep, thats what happens with dual clutch setup–for everyday driving, you wind up getting lazy and let the car do the shifting. I wrote something to the effect that DSG/DCT is something gained, something lost (and got bashed a bit for the sentiment), but losing the clutch does take away from the driving experience. On the track, the DSG is great, but you lose something day to day.

]]> By: JMills http://www.bimmerfile.com/2008/02/15/bmw-to-bring-double-clutch-transmission-to-3-series-next-year/comment-page-1/#comment-141 JMills Fri, 15 Feb 2008 16:04:10 +0000 http://www.bimmerfile.com/2008/02/15/bmw-to-bring-double-clutch-transmission-to-3-series-next-year/#comment-141 <p>I really hope these don't fully replace the manual altogether in the near future. I realize that they are faster, and better for track use, but for real world driving I still want the full involvement of a manual. I have driven a GTI with DSG, and my friend who owns one admits that after the initial appeal wore off, he lets the car shift for itself most of the time.</p> I really hope these don’t fully replace the manual altogether in the near future. I realize that they are faster, and better for track use, but for real world driving I still want the full involvement of a manual. I have driven a GTI with DSG, and my friend who owns one admits that after the initial appeal wore off, he lets the car shift for itself most of the time.

]]> By: Jon http://www.bimmerfile.com/2008/02/15/bmw-to-bring-double-clutch-transmission-to-3-series-next-year/comment-page-1/#comment-140 Jon Fri, 15 Feb 2008 16:03:30 +0000 http://www.bimmerfile.com/2008/02/15/bmw-to-bring-double-clutch-transmission-to-3-series-next-year/#comment-140 <p>Very very good news</p> Very very good news

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