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	<title>Comments on: Exclusive: The NEW ///M Motor in Depth</title>
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		<title>By: BavarianMotorsportClub.org</title>
		<link>http://www.bimmerfile.com/2009/05/01/exclusive-the-new-m-motor-in-depth/comment-page-1/#comment-179112</link>
		<dc:creator>BavarianMotorsportClub.org</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Jun 2011 12:52:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Interesting&lt;/p&gt;
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		<title>By: BavarianMotorsportClub.org</title>
		<link>http://www.bimmerfile.com/2009/05/01/exclusive-the-new-m-motor-in-depth/comment-page-1/#comment-179111</link>
		<dc:creator>BavarianMotorsportClub.org</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Jun 2011 12:52:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Interesting&lt;/p&gt;
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		<title>By: identiti_crisis</title>
		<link>http://www.bimmerfile.com/2009/05/01/exclusive-the-new-m-motor-in-depth/comment-page-1/#comment-110734</link>
		<dc:creator>identiti_crisis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Jan 2011 17:21:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Back in the sixties it was common to see the
exhaust manifold nestled in the vee like that in F1 etc., precisely
so that cylinders from opposite banks could be paired if necessary
for optimal scavenging. It&#039;s quite a sight to behold, particularly
on the Ferrari V12s of the time.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Given this
setup tended to cause the exhaust valves to overheat, the intake
was moved back into the vee instead. The cross-plane V8 engines had
to make do with a x- / y- / balance-pipe to approach the benefits
of proper 180-degree (or &quot;bundle of snakes&quot;) headers, as fitted to
the GT40 and other cross-plane V8s of the time, which have their
own problems with heat.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;In this example, each
turbo receives a pulse every 180 degrees overall (like each
collector in 180 degree headers), and &lt;strong&gt;each scroll
receives a pulse every 360 degrees&lt;/strong&gt;,
&lt;em&gt;not&lt;/em&gt; 90 degrees as stated in the article. 720 /
8 = 90; so each successive cylinder is 90 degrees away. If each
scroll got a pulse separated by 90 degrees, it would have to wait
630 degrees for the next one - precisely what is being avoided by
using this pairing method! This 180° spacing is identical to a
single twin-scroll turbo setup on the Subaru rally cars, where
their road-car equivalents have themselves had uneven pulses
historically. I wouldn&#039;t be at all surprised if BMW took their
inspiration from motorsport. I can&#039;t quite get over the sound of
this engine, though.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Back in the sixties it was common to see the
exhaust manifold nestled in the vee like that in F1 etc., precisely
so that cylinders from opposite banks could be paired if necessary
for optimal scavenging. It&#8217;s quite a sight to behold, particularly
on the Ferrari V12s of the time.</p>

<p>Given this
setup tended to cause the exhaust valves to overheat, the intake
was moved back into the vee instead. The cross-plane V8 engines had
to make do with a x- / y- / balance-pipe to approach the benefits
of proper 180-degree (or &#8220;bundle of snakes&#8221;) headers, as fitted to
the GT40 and other cross-plane V8s of the time, which have their
own problems with heat.</p>

<p>In this example, each
turbo receives a pulse every 180 degrees overall (like each
collector in 180 degree headers), and <strong>each scroll
receives a pulse every 360 degrees</strong>,
<em>not</em> 90 degrees as stated in the article. 720 /
8 = 90; so each successive cylinder is 90 degrees away. If each
scroll got a pulse separated by 90 degrees, it would have to wait
630 degrees for the next one &#8211; precisely what is being avoided by
using this pairing method! This 180° spacing is identical to a
single twin-scroll turbo setup on the Subaru rally cars, where
their road-car equivalents have themselves had uneven pulses
historically. I wouldn&#8217;t be at all surprised if BMW took their
inspiration from motorsport. I can&#8217;t quite get over the sound of
this engine, though.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Technische Details zum Motor von BMW X5 M &#38; X6 M (S63)</title>
		<link>http://www.bimmerfile.com/2009/05/01/exclusive-the-new-m-motor-in-depth/comment-page-1/#comment-45297</link>
		<dc:creator>Technische Details zum Motor von BMW X5 M &#38; X6 M (S63)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Sep 2010 12:17:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;[...] Bimmerfile.com findet sich derzeit ein interessanter Artikel, der uns einigen Einblick in die technischen Details [...]&lt;/p&gt;
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		<title>By: Surya</title>
		<link>http://www.bimmerfile.com/2009/05/01/exclusive-the-new-m-motor-in-depth/comment-page-1/#comment-11741</link>
		<dc:creator>Surya</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Jan 2010 18:18:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I have the newest ///M3 in my garage right now. I love it to bits. Its not straight line performance that I care about. I have an MV Agusta F4 Senna 1000R for that if I ever needed to feel just outright acceleration and blast past nearly everything except for a Veyron. What I love about the ///M is the hunkered down look, the awesome leather/carbon interior, the quiet menace the car exudes and lets not mention the noise that thing makes when you step on the gas! Not to mention the way it handles in M mode. Its like driving Muhammad Ali! The car destroys corners with aplomb! I agree that you cannot exact more power out of it without resorting to spend thousands of dollars but I dont care. The high revving V8 is only one small part of the equation. The ///M3 is the sum of its overall package always! I for one will lament the loss of the NA engines. Will the next versions of the ///M models be epic? Hell yes this is BMW we are talking about! Will I keep this ///M3 forever? Hell yes!&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have the newest ///M3 in my garage right now. I love it to bits. Its not straight line performance that I care about. I have an MV Agusta F4 Senna 1000R for that if I ever needed to feel just outright acceleration and blast past nearly everything except for a Veyron. What I love about the ///M is the hunkered down look, the awesome leather/carbon interior, the quiet menace the car exudes and lets not mention the noise that thing makes when you step on the gas! Not to mention the way it handles in M mode. Its like driving Muhammad Ali! The car destroys corners with aplomb! I agree that you cannot exact more power out of it without resorting to spend thousands of dollars but I dont care. The high revving V8 is only one small part of the equation. The ///M3 is the sum of its overall package always! I for one will lament the loss of the NA engines. Will the next versions of the ///M models be epic? Hell yes this is BMW we are talking about! Will I keep this ///M3 forever? Hell yes!</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Scott</title>
		<link>http://www.bimmerfile.com/2009/05/01/exclusive-the-new-m-motor-in-depth/comment-page-1/#comment-8828</link>
		<dc:creator>Scott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Oct 2009 00:39:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;As an owner of an 07 335i Manual Transmission I must say the N54 Engine is absolutely fabulous.   A two time international Engine winner, with nearly no turbo lag what’s so ever.  I added the Juice Box 3 to my car a few months ago that adds ~80 hp and ~80 additional ft lb torque all for under $500.  I also have an 05 Subaru WRX STi that I have had since new.  Again for a few dollars these turbo engines can be additionally tuned to unreal levels.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I looked long and hard at the new M3 when it first came out.  Right off the bat I was totally disappointed by the lack of Direct Fuel Injection.  At the end of the day less than 20 mpg on the freeway compared to the real world 30 mpg of my 335i, yet performance wise my 335i will just make a stock M3 cry in a straight line race.  The M3 leaves very little left for performance gains, and should you try expect to pay several thousands for very little gained.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;While spinning a V8 to 8300 RPM’s is pretty cool its just not very practical.  The 7000 RPM red line in my 335i still sounds great, and the heritage sound of my BMW straight 6 is totally BMW.  Why not have 500 ft lb tire shredding performance from 1500 RPM up rather than 297 from ~4000 on.  The new M3 engine builds power very smoothly but never really feels all that strong, where my 335i feels like it will through you in the back seat from almost any gear from 1500 RPM to red line.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I can’t wait for the new M3 Turbo.  I will be saving my money starting today&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As an owner of an 07 335i Manual Transmission I must say the N54 Engine is absolutely fabulous.   A two time international Engine winner, with nearly no turbo lag what’s so ever.  I added the Juice Box 3 to my car a few months ago that adds ~80 hp and ~80 additional ft lb torque all for under $500.  I also have an 05 Subaru WRX STi that I have had since new.  Again for a few dollars these turbo engines can be additionally tuned to unreal levels.</p>

<p>I looked long and hard at the new M3 when it first came out.  Right off the bat I was totally disappointed by the lack of Direct Fuel Injection.  At the end of the day less than 20 mpg on the freeway compared to the real world 30 mpg of my 335i, yet performance wise my 335i will just make a stock M3 cry in a straight line race.  The M3 leaves very little left for performance gains, and should you try expect to pay several thousands for very little gained.</p>

<p>While spinning a V8 to 8300 RPM’s is pretty cool its just not very practical.  The 7000 RPM red line in my 335i still sounds great, and the heritage sound of my BMW straight 6 is totally BMW.  Why not have 500 ft lb tire shredding performance from 1500 RPM up rather than 297 from ~4000 on.  The new M3 engine builds power very smoothly but never really feels all that strong, where my 335i feels like it will through you in the back seat from almost any gear from 1500 RPM to red line.</p>

<p>I can’t wait for the new M3 Turbo.  I will be saving my money starting today</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Gary O</title>
		<link>http://www.bimmerfile.com/2009/05/01/exclusive-the-new-m-motor-in-depth/comment-page-1/#comment-8355</link>
		<dc:creator>Gary O</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Aug 2009 22:54:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Excellent article, excellent graphics.  As an owner of two M3 (e36 and e46) I welcome the advent of turbo motors to the M line. Part of my interest is the fact that I live at over 5000 ft and the power loss is significant in NA engines.  Yes, we are talking losses of over 20% on most days! So anything that helps recover some of that lost power is well recieved by me and the M enthusists that live in Colorado.  This all too real, where newer 335 and 135 models are walking the older e46 M3&#039;s at the track.  A sad but very true fact.  Yes, I love the &quot;rasp&quot; and I&#039;ll always love my s54 engine (the most powerful NA six ever produced).  But that will all be soon forgotten once I have a chance to sample one of these new engines at altitude. My hats are off to the BMW M division. Keep up the excellent work!&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Excellent article, excellent graphics.  As an owner of two M3 (e36 and e46) I welcome the advent of turbo motors to the M line. Part of my interest is the fact that I live at over 5000 ft and the power loss is significant in NA engines.  Yes, we are talking losses of over 20% on most days! So anything that helps recover some of that lost power is well recieved by me and the M enthusists that live in Colorado.  This all too real, where newer 335 and 135 models are walking the older e46 M3&#8242;s at the track.  A sad but very true fact.  Yes, I love the &#8220;rasp&#8221; and I&#8217;ll always love my s54 engine (the most powerful NA six ever produced).  But that will all be soon forgotten once I have a chance to sample one of these new engines at altitude. My hats are off to the BMW M division. Keep up the excellent work!</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Bimmernet</title>
		<link>http://www.bimmerfile.com/2009/05/01/exclusive-the-new-m-motor-in-depth/comment-page-1/#comment-7894</link>
		<dc:creator>Bimmernet</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Jul 2009 18:14:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I too have owned more than one generation of M-Engine and I know it&#039;s likely going to get me roundly booed but my favorite M motor was the 3.2 in my &#039;98 M3.  It&#039;s meaty torque and flexible power available at any engine speed off idle is I believe closer to the new Turbo motors than the high RPM E60/92 motors.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;While I love the current crop (I am the acknowledged &quot;M-Specialist&quot; at the BMW Center where I sell) I am very interested in getting a chance to drive the new M Turbos.  If they are an extension of the ones in the new 2009 750Li then it will be a bloody great drive.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;With the government mandated emission and fuel economy standards we&#039;re lucky to be looking forward to anything as powerful and responsive as those M Turbos being planned for introduction in the not too distant future.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Bimmernet&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I too have owned more than one generation of M-Engine and I know it&#8217;s likely going to get me roundly booed but my favorite M motor was the 3.2 in my &#8217;98 M3.  It&#8217;s meaty torque and flexible power available at any engine speed off idle is I believe closer to the new Turbo motors than the high RPM E60/92 motors.</p>

<p>While I love the current crop (I am the acknowledged &#8220;M-Specialist&#8221; at the BMW Center where I sell) I am very interested in getting a chance to drive the new M Turbos.  If they are an extension of the ones in the new 2009 750Li then it will be a bloody great drive.</p>

<p>With the government mandated emission and fuel economy standards we&#8217;re lucky to be looking forward to anything as powerful and responsive as those M Turbos being planned for introduction in the not too distant future.</p>

<p>Bimmernet</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: BimmerFile &#187; Archive &#124; BMW News and Opinion</title>
		<link>http://www.bimmerfile.com/2009/05/01/exclusive-the-new-m-motor-in-depth/comment-page-1/#comment-6526</link>
		<dc:creator>BimmerFile &#187; Archive &#124; BMW News and Opinion</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 May 2009 13:00:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;[...] recently discussed the V8 powering the ///M versions of the X5 and X6 here at BimmerFile in great detail. In our coverage of that motor we alluded that BMW will begin to use [...]&lt;/p&gt;
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		<title>By: T Bone</title>
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		<dc:creator>T Bone</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 May 2009 03:10:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Michael,&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Excellent write-up, thank you.  I am one of multi-generational ///M car owners that is less than pleased with the need to go to forced induction but with the emissions rules, I understand the necessary trade off for more power.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Clearly BMW set a new bar with turbo engines with the N54 (I have a 335xi in addition to my M6) but the lag is definitely perceptible.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;If the new M5 / M6 is based on this V8, I am hoping it could rev to 8000 rpm with peak torque in to 6000-8000 rpm range with about 650 hp (this is where the motor works during max acceleration).  Hopefully, the drivetrain will also features KERS.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;One other concern I have is the weight of the drivetrain that a big torque motor would necessitate.  You may recall the various BMW marketing materials that claim there is a great weight savings with the lower torque, high rpm concept.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Keep up the great writing.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;T Bone&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Michael,</p>

<p>Excellent write-up, thank you.  I am one of multi-generational ///M car owners that is less than pleased with the need to go to forced induction but with the emissions rules, I understand the necessary trade off for more power.</p>

<p>Clearly BMW set a new bar with turbo engines with the N54 (I have a 335xi in addition to my M6) but the lag is definitely perceptible.</p>

<p>If the new M5 / M6 is based on this V8, I am hoping it could rev to 8000 rpm with peak torque in to 6000-8000 rpm range with about 650 hp (this is where the motor works during max acceleration).  Hopefully, the drivetrain will also features KERS.</p>

<p>One other concern I have is the weight of the drivetrain that a big torque motor would necessitate.  You may recall the various BMW marketing materials that claim there is a great weight savings with the lower torque, high rpm concept.</p>

<p>Keep up the great writing.</p>

<p>T Bone</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: chaz</title>
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		<dc:creator>chaz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 May 2009 16:18:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;21 ft/lbs of max boost???  Pounds per square inch maybe?&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;(Was a typo-fixed!)&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I understand the drive to move to turbos, but I like cars that have the power (and sound) build like the NA cars do.  I also  have felt  that if you drive turbos hard, as you would an ///M car, you are generating large amounts of heat and just shortening the life (as my $5,000 bill to replace a twin turbo setup showed me).&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Can’t wait until the ///M division comes out with an M turbo diesel SUV!  (ouch, did I say that)?&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>21 ft/lbs of max boost???  Pounds per square inch maybe?</p>

<p>(Was a typo-fixed!)</p>

<p>I understand the drive to move to turbos, but I like cars that have the power (and sound) build like the NA cars do.  I also  have felt  that if you drive turbos hard, as you would an ///M car, you are generating large amounts of heat and just shortening the life (as my $5,000 bill to replace a twin turbo setup showed me).</p>

<p>Can’t wait until the ///M division comes out with an M turbo diesel SUV!  (ouch, did I say that)?</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Nuove immagini del motore V8 Motorsport delle X5M ed X6M &#124; commenta i motori, le automobili, le moto, gli accessori</title>
		<link>http://www.bimmerfile.com/2009/05/01/exclusive-the-new-m-motor-in-depth/comment-page-1/#comment-6266</link>
		<dc:creator>Nuove immagini del motore V8 Motorsport delle X5M ed X6M &#124; commenta i motori, le automobili, le moto, gli accessori</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: Barry</title>
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		<dc:creator>Barry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 May 2009 15:14:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Wow, what a great write-up! I loved the pictures and detailed diagram as well.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow, what a great write-up! I loved the pictures and detailed diagram as well.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Michael</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 May 2009 13:08:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Tim- I could not agree more! The engineering in these things is mind blowing and in turn may alleviate many concerns of turbo charging. Having had a good deal of turbo experience I look forward to seeing what ///M really has done. Granted I will miss the sound of a NA V8!&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tim- I could not agree more! The engineering in these things is mind blowing and in turn may alleviate many concerns of turbo charging. Having had a good deal of turbo experience I look forward to seeing what ///M really has done. Granted I will miss the sound of a NA V8!</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Tim</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 May 2009 10:48:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Regardless of your like or dislike for the lack of NA ///M Motors these days. You have to admit that they certainly do some mind bending with these amazing designs...  the sheer brilliance of the engineering is staggering to me. Or the sheer standard operating procedure for the Germans for that matter...  Who else would bring this kind of perfection to us?&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Regardless of your like or dislike for the lack of NA ///M Motors these days. You have to admit that they certainly do some mind bending with these amazing designs&#8230;  the sheer brilliance of the engineering is staggering to me. Or the sheer standard operating procedure for the Germans for that matter&#8230;  Who else would bring this kind of perfection to us?</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: JonPD</title>
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		<dc:creator>JonPD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 May 2009 15:02:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;You choose very well indeed Michael, that monster V8 makes me smile every time I see one go rumbling by, still waiting on hearing a stock M some day on the track where that beast can be unleashed.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You choose very well indeed Michael, that monster V8 makes me smile every time I see one go rumbling by, still waiting on hearing a stock M some day on the track where that beast can be unleashed.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Michael</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 May 2009 13:17:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Gabe-&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I love the sound of the larger NA ///M motors. In fact that beautiful sound is part of the reason I have an ///M3. The sound is &quot;love&quot; to my ears, it is intoxicating. It wails like an F1 car with less refinement- the perception of sound is one of the most individual characteristics we as humans have and is one of the most difficult to describe- the V8 in the ///M3 is just in its own class.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;What will be interesting is to hear what these turbos sound like, did the miracle workers in Munich tune it to sound NA or was that too hard of a task, or is it so throaty and deep that the love affair we have with the current motors will be gone and in turn create more of a desire for the current NA motors in the future. Part of my original reasoning getting the ///M3 was because I knew the end was coming for NA motors.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gabe-</p>

<p>I love the sound of the larger NA ///M motors. In fact that beautiful sound is part of the reason I have an ///M3. The sound is &#8220;love&#8221; to my ears, it is intoxicating. It wails like an F1 car with less refinement- the perception of sound is one of the most individual characteristics we as humans have and is one of the most difficult to describe- the V8 in the ///M3 is just in its own class.</p>

<p>What will be interesting is to hear what these turbos sound like, did the miracle workers in Munich tune it to sound NA or was that too hard of a task, or is it so throaty and deep that the love affair we have with the current motors will be gone and in turn create more of a desire for the current NA motors in the future. Part of my original reasoning getting the ///M3 was because I knew the end was coming for NA motors.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: JonPD</title>
		<link>http://www.bimmerfile.com/2009/05/01/exclusive-the-new-m-motor-in-depth/comment-page-1/#comment-6202</link>
		<dc:creator>JonPD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 May 2009 18:33:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Great article.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I shed a single tear the day M went to forced induction. While I understand why they choose this path I am not a fan of turbochargers (despite their advantages). The best sound ever by BMW was the high revving powerplants that have come out of the M Division for many years something that I feel quickly marching away.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I know M will continue to make desirable cars in the future but have to say I think the best audio performance in its history will be in its past.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great article.</p>

<p>I shed a single tear the day M went to forced induction. While I understand why they choose this path I am not a fan of turbochargers (despite their advantages). The best sound ever by BMW was the high revving powerplants that have come out of the M Division for many years something that I feel quickly marching away.</p>

<p>I know M will continue to make desirable cars in the future but have to say I think the best audio performance in its history will be in its past.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: mellowmcs</title>
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		<dc:creator>mellowmcs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 May 2009 16:46:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;one small correction on the article. the standard mini cooper S also uses twin scroll turbocharger.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>one small correction on the article. the standard mini cooper S also uses twin scroll turbocharger.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Gabe</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gabe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 May 2009 15:33:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I&#039;ll admit I&#039;m one of those people that has a strong distaste for this new era of forced induction //M powerplants. However this article goes a long way in presenting a valid case for them.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;That said I can&#039;t help but think the gorgeous white E60 M5 I heard this morning roar past me with it&#039;s complex and high revving V10 will be something to be treasured in the years ahead.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ll admit I&#8217;m one of those people that has a strong distaste for this new era of forced induction //M powerplants. However this article goes a long way in presenting a valid case for them.</p>

<p>That said I can&#8217;t help but think the gorgeous white E60 M5 I heard this morning roar past me with it&#8217;s complex and high revving V10 will be something to be treasured in the years ahead.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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