‘10 5 Series Production to End December

TBeam Oct 2nd, 2009 Link

E60 and E61 production will stop at the same time? Or will the introduction of the new wagon be after the F10 sedan? It would be strange to have the 5 series GT and the 5 series wagon arrive to dealers at the same time, given that there is overlap in the target market.

Not quite related, but BMW seems to be in an odd transitional state right now with models. Shortly one will be able to purchase an X1 (based on the current e91 3-series, with plenty of common parts), or an X3 (based on the now 10 year old e46 3-series). They are essentially the same size, so again overlap in target market.

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Michael Oct 2nd, 2009 Link

The 5 Series GT will be at dealers by the end of this year (if not by end of November). The US may not see the next generation 5 Series wagon (as we mentioned a while back).

The next generation X3 will be larger in size and be based off the next generation 3 Series, it will actually be the first 3 series based product for the next gen. The next X3 will debut early in 2010 (more than likely at Detroit).

The X1 picks up where the current X3 left off, as in using an older architecture. It is a way to use the current technology to introduce a cheaper SAV into the mix, it was cheaper to develop as well. We will not see it in the US until after the current X3 is decommissioned and the new one has been here for a while (Next fall at the earliest). The X1 will also feature 4 cylinder motors and be another way of differentiating it from the more expensive X3. The X5 will be getting its mid-cycle refresh and improved power plants as well (N55).

So there will be no overlap at all- BMW is smarter than that. In the future I will try and write up a “road map” of sorts for new models and where they fit in.

-M

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TBeam Oct 2nd, 2009 Link

Thanks for the clarification. I really hope that the new 5 series wagon comes to North America. It looks like it is going to be positioned as a more sporty vehicle than the luxury-focused 5-GT. Looks like either I have to get over my aversion to SUV’s or the US has to start liking wagons, before I get my next ride.

I assumed overlap of the new X1 and old X3 because the former has already gone through concept and full production introductions, while the new X3 has only been spotted in test mule form (from what I have seen).

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rlb Oct 2nd, 2009 Link

What I think is odd was the way the 3 coupe refresh and the X5 refresh was pushed off until next spring rather than happening this fall which made more sense. I think the reason this happened is due to the N55 engine. My thought is that we’ll see the new N55 engine introduced more broadly in the spring. Currently it’s only available in the 5GT. BMW couldn’t introduce a refreshed 3 sporting a newer more potent engine while still producing the e60 and they wouldn’t upgrade the e60 with the new engine and steal the thunder of the new F10. Come spring we’ll see the new engine in the refreshed 3 and X5 and the newly introduced X3 and 5 series. What will they call the engine? 35i or 40i? I could see the new 5 series in 530i, 540i, and 550i versions. Maybe a 535d or 540d diesel too???

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Bob Oct 28th, 2009 Link

I believe the F10 will arrive in the spring. In Canada, you can only configure the E60 with minimal options. Some, such as HUD are not available.

The same think was observed at the end of the Mercedes E class run. Limited options availability, presumably allowing Mercedes to run down inventory on options equipment that may or may not have been ordered, in preparation for a model change.

I bet we see a new 5 (F10) in the spring. I’m waiting to order one – I love being part of BMWs R & D.

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