Comments on: The E82 & F20 1 Series //M Cars Come into Focus http://www.bimmerfile.com/2009/11/14/the-e82-f20-1-series-m-cars-come-into-focus/ BMW News & Opinion, BMW M3, BMW 1M, BMW 1 Series, BMW 3 Series, BMW 5 Series, BMW X5, BMW X6, BMW X3, BMW i Sat, 11 Feb 2012 04:12:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: BimmerFile » Archive » Report: M Division Gives the Green Light to the M1 http://www.bimmerfile.com/2009/11/14/the-e82-f20-1-series-m-cars-come-into-focus/comment-page-1/#comment-181393 BimmerFile » Archive » Report: M Division Gives the Green Light to the M1 Fri, 08 Jul 2011 16:33:17 +0000 http://www.bimmerfile.com/?p=4741#comment-181393 <p>[...] bhp, reduced weight and a revised suspension will be the most important changes (you can read our entire report here). It now appears that Autocar is jumping on the band-wagon with some information of their own. [...]</p> [...] bhp, reduced weight and a revised suspension will be the most important changes (you can read our entire report here). It now appears that Autocar is jumping on the band-wagon with some information of their own. [...]

]]> By: BMW1 http://www.bimmerfile.com/2009/11/14/the-e82-f20-1-series-m-cars-come-into-focus/comment-page-1/#comment-12822 BMW1 Sat, 13 Feb 2010 20:23:47 +0000 http://www.bimmerfile.com/?p=4741#comment-12822 <p>The current base price for a 135i including destination charge is $36,925. I will be suprised if the 1M is priced much lower than $48,000-$50,000.</p> <p>The price for a M3 sedan is about 56,000 and the coupe about 59,000 including destination.</p> The current base price for a 135i including destination charge is $36,925. I will be suprised if the 1M is priced much lower than $48,000-$50,000.

The price for a M3 sedan is about 56,000 and the coupe about 59,000 including destination.

]]> By: Michael http://www.bimmerfile.com/2009/11/14/the-e82-f20-1-series-m-cars-come-into-focus/comment-page-1/#comment-10937 Michael Thu, 07 Jan 2010 00:00:25 +0000 http://www.bimmerfile.com/?p=4741#comment-10937 <p>It is not going to be $50k it will come in the mid $40s, beneath the 335i E92. The 135i if I recall is priced at $34k right now. And no you can not build a better car than ///M for less money- can't do it, especially with a CF roof, fenders and all the other tricks an OEM can do. Those wheels alone are $4k.</p> <p>On a side note- remember the 1 is not an entry level vehicle in the US- we do not see stripped 116i cars with roll up windows- that is entry level ;)</p> It is not going to be $50k it will come in the mid $40s, beneath the 335i E92. The 135i if I recall is priced at $34k right now. And no you can not build a better car than ///M for less money- can’t do it, especially with a CF roof, fenders and all the other tricks an OEM can do. Those wheels alone are $4k.

On a side note- remember the 1 is not an entry level vehicle in the US- we do not see stripped 116i cars with roll up windows- that is entry level ;)

]]> By: Bimmer1 http://www.bimmerfile.com/2009/11/14/the-e82-f20-1-series-m-cars-come-into-focus/comment-page-1/#comment-10933 Bimmer1 Wed, 06 Jan 2010 22:28:21 +0000 http://www.bimmerfile.com/?p=4741#comment-10933 <p>Why would anyone pay $50k for a 1 series M car when they can get a M3 sedan for the same price or a M3 coupe for a few thousand $$$ more?!?!?!! I'd just buy a base model 135 for $32k, get a real limited slip diff from diffsonline, dinan stg. II software, strip down the interior, some brembo brakes, and put a bilstein suspension on the car. Whaaaaala....1 series M car for under $40k that's really ready for the racetrack! Sell off the brakes and other bits you take off the car and you're coming in even cheaper than that. No manufacturer should be able to justify a cost difference of more than $20,000 from the base model level to loaded model of a car. Especially when it's an entry level vehicle!!! The cost difference of the engine, suspension, and rear end cannot be anywhere close to the difference they are going to charge for the car. Maybe another $5,000 total their cost. Markup should not be more than $5000 over that. At a $40k entry level price the 135M would sell like hotcakes. Load it up with nav and everything else (although why would you) and then maybe you'd be at $46-48k. But starting at $50k and moving up from there will mean that practically no one that would want the car will be able to afford it. Can you imagine a $58,000 1 series? Who's going to buy that? Not me or any of my diehard BMW friends that's for sure.</p> Why would anyone pay $50k for a 1 series M car when they can get a M3 sedan for the same price or a M3 coupe for a few thousand $$$ more?!?!?!! I’d just buy a base model 135 for $32k, get a real limited slip diff from diffsonline, dinan stg. II software, strip down the interior, some brembo brakes, and put a bilstein suspension on the car. Whaaaaala….1 series M car for under $40k that’s really ready for the racetrack! Sell off the brakes and other bits you take off the car and you’re coming in even cheaper than that. No manufacturer should be able to justify a cost difference of more than $20,000 from the base model level to loaded model of a car. Especially when it’s an entry level vehicle!!! The cost difference of the engine, suspension, and rear end cannot be anywhere close to the difference they are going to charge for the car. Maybe another $5,000 total their cost. Markup should not be more than $5000 over that. At a $40k entry level price the 135M would sell like hotcakes. Load it up with nav and everything else (although why would you) and then maybe you’d be at $46-48k. But starting at $50k and moving up from there will mean that practically no one that would want the car will be able to afford it. Can you imagine a $58,000 1 series? Who’s going to buy that? Not me or any of my diehard BMW friends that’s for sure.

]]> By: Custom muscle cars: Будет BMW пробуя ново Серию 1 Motorsport http://www.bimmerfile.com/2009/11/14/the-e82-f20-1-series-m-cars-come-into-focus/comment-page-1/#comment-10877 Custom muscle cars: Будет BMW пробуя ново Серию 1 Motorsport Tue, 05 Jan 2010 17:12:05 +0000 http://www.bimmerfile.com/?p=4741#comment-10877 <p>[...] опускать 1.560 кг до одних мало более 1.400 кг. Отнесенный: bimmerfile Posted by Eric Reed at 9:11 [...]</p> [...] опускать 1.560 кг до одних мало более 1.400 кг. Отнесенный: bimmerfile Posted by Eric Reed at 9:11 [...]

]]> By: Old muscle cars: BMW will be proving new Series 1 Motorsport http://www.bimmerfile.com/2009/11/14/the-e82-f20-1-series-m-cars-come-into-focus/comment-page-1/#comment-10872 Old muscle cars: BMW will be proving new Series 1 Motorsport Tue, 05 Jan 2010 12:04:28 +0000 http://www.bimmerfile.com/?p=4741#comment-10872 <p>[...] do without the rear stool to lower of 1.560 kg up to some little more than 1.400 kg. Recounted: bimmerfile Posted by Eric Reed at 4:04 [...]</p> [...] do without the rear stool to lower of 1.560 kg up to some little more than 1.400 kg. Recounted: bimmerfile Posted by Eric Reed at 4:04 [...]

]]> By: Voitures tuning: BMW sera en prouvant nouveau la Série 1 Motorsport http://www.bimmerfile.com/2009/11/14/the-e82-f20-1-series-m-cars-come-into-focus/comment-page-1/#comment-10870 Voitures tuning: BMW sera en prouvant nouveau la Série 1 Motorsport Tue, 05 Jan 2010 11:17:39 +0000 http://www.bimmerfile.com/?p=4741#comment-10870 <p>[...] postérieure pour descendre des 1.560 kgs jusqu'aux uns peu plus de 1.400 kgs. Rapporté : bimmerfile Posted by Eric Reed at 3:17 [...]</p> [...] postérieure pour descendre des 1.560 kgs jusqu'aux uns peu plus de 1.400 kgs. Rapporté : bimmerfile Posted by Eric Reed at 3:17 [...]

]]> By: Auto point: Es wird BMW sein, neu Reihe 1 Motorsport erprobend http://www.bimmerfile.com/2009/11/14/the-e82-f20-1-series-m-cars-come-into-focus/comment-page-1/#comment-10851 Auto point: Es wird BMW sein, neu Reihe 1 Motorsport erprobend Tue, 05 Jan 2010 00:06:25 +0000 http://www.bimmerfile.com/?p=4741#comment-10851 <p>[...] absehen könnte, um von 1.560 Kg bis manche über 1.400 Kg herunterzunehmen. Berichtet: bimmerfile Posted by Eric Reed at 4:06 [...]</p> [...] absehen könnte, um von 1.560 Kg bis manche über 1.400 Kg herunterzunehmen. Berichtet: bimmerfile Posted by Eric Reed at 4:06 [...]

]]> By: illegalprelude http://www.bimmerfile.com/2009/11/14/the-e82-f20-1-series-m-cars-come-into-focus/comment-page-1/#comment-9660 illegalprelude Wed, 18 Nov 2009 04:39:29 +0000 http://www.bimmerfile.com/?p=4741#comment-9660 <p>I thought the whole point of the 1 series was to also make an M version that more people can afford. If its gonna be $50k, I might as well go buy an M3?</p> I thought the whole point of the 1 series was to also make an M version that more people can afford. If its gonna be $50k, I might as well go buy an M3?

]]> By: Estará BMW probando un nuevo Serie 1 Motorsport : Blogografia http://www.bimmerfile.com/2009/11/14/the-e82-f20-1-series-m-cars-come-into-focus/comment-page-1/#comment-9642 Estará BMW probando un nuevo Serie 1 Motorsport : Blogografia Tue, 17 Nov 2009 09:21:26 +0000 http://www.bimmerfile.com/?p=4741#comment-9642 <p>[...] bimmerfile Publicado en: Motor 0 [...]</p> [...] bimmerfile Publicado en: Motor 0 [...]

]]> By: Primo135 http://www.bimmerfile.com/2009/11/14/the-e82-f20-1-series-m-cars-come-into-focus/comment-page-1/#comment-9625 Primo135 Mon, 16 Nov 2009 18:20:34 +0000 http://www.bimmerfile.com/?p=4741#comment-9625 <p>Just give me an LSD... and a diet, some more room for wheels/tires, and a fuel pump that works.</p> Just give me an LSD… and a diet, some more room for wheels/tires, and a fuel pump that works.

]]> By: Bimmer1 http://www.bimmerfile.com/2009/11/14/the-e82-f20-1-series-m-cars-come-into-focus/comment-page-1/#comment-9624 Bimmer1 Mon, 16 Nov 2009 16:00:05 +0000 http://www.bimmerfile.com/?p=4741#comment-9624 <p>Just give me a real limited slip diff and I'm good to go!!!</p> Just give me a real limited slip diff and I’m good to go!!!

]]> By: Más potencia y menos peso para el BMW Serie 1 más radical : Blogografia http://www.bimmerfile.com/2009/11/14/the-e82-f20-1-series-m-cars-come-into-focus/comment-page-1/#comment-9619 Más potencia y menos peso para el BMW Serie 1 más radical : Blogografia Sun, 15 Nov 2009 20:01:06 +0000 http://www.bimmerfile.com/?p=4741#comment-9619 <p>[...] BimmerFile En Diariomotor: Los futuros BMW Serie 1 y Serie 3 compartirán motores de tres cilindros | BMW [...]</p> [...] BimmerFile En Diariomotor: Los futuros BMW Serie 1 y Serie 3 compartirán motores de tres cilindros | BMW [...]

]]> By: Más potencia y menos peso para el BMW Serie 1 más radical — Diariomotor http://www.bimmerfile.com/2009/11/14/the-e82-f20-1-series-m-cars-come-into-focus/comment-page-1/#comment-9618 Más potencia y menos peso para el BMW Serie 1 más radical — Diariomotor Sun, 15 Nov 2009 19:18:30 +0000 http://www.bimmerfile.com/?p=4741#comment-9618 <p>[...] BimmerFile En Diariomotor: Los futuros BMW Serie 1 y Serie 3 compartirán motores de tres cilindros | BMW [...]</p> [...] BimmerFile En Diariomotor: Los futuros BMW Serie 1 y Serie 3 compartirán motores de tres cilindros | BMW [...]

]]> By: RJ http://www.bimmerfile.com/2009/11/14/the-e82-f20-1-series-m-cars-come-into-focus/comment-page-1/#comment-9616 RJ Sun, 15 Nov 2009 17:40:37 +0000 http://www.bimmerfile.com/?p=4741#comment-9616 <p>BMW also has to look at the costs of federalizing the car, the cost of certifying a small handful of cars for US sale etc....it may not be worth the cost to BMW to do that.</p> BMW also has to look at the costs of federalizing the car, the cost of certifying a small handful of cars for US sale etc….it may not be worth the cost to BMW to do that.

]]> By: JonPD http://www.bimmerfile.com/2009/11/14/the-e82-f20-1-series-m-cars-come-into-focus/comment-page-1/#comment-9608 JonPD Sun, 15 Nov 2009 04:48:43 +0000 http://www.bimmerfile.com/?p=4741#comment-9608 <p>I personally have no issue with a 50k 1M if they truly make is something spacial.</p> <p>Between the GTS and a solid 1M product I would go after the 1M every time. This is mostly due to the fact that the current 1 series is closer to the BMW's that I fell in love with than most of the ever increasing size and weight of the 3 and 5 series. Also BMW to me doesn't exist in the 100k + group of builders.</p> I personally have no issue with a 50k 1M if they truly make is something spacial.

Between the GTS and a solid 1M product I would go after the 1M every time. This is mostly due to the fact that the current 1 series is closer to the BMW’s that I fell in love with than most of the ever increasing size and weight of the 3 and 5 series. Also BMW to me doesn’t exist in the 100k + group of builders.

]]> By: Drill http://www.bimmerfile.com/2009/11/14/the-e82-f20-1-series-m-cars-come-into-focus/comment-page-1/#comment-9602 Drill Sun, 15 Nov 2009 00:14:14 +0000 http://www.bimmerfile.com/?p=4741#comment-9602 <p>@Dan, Dude, I think that's what they ARE doing. I don't think BMW would find much of a market for a <$50k 1 Series. We enthusiasts would LOVE to see it, but most folks would be scared away by the cost (meaning less $$$ for BMW) :-(</p> @Dan, Dude, I think that’s what they ARE doing. I don’t think BMW would find much of a market for a <$50k 1 Series. We enthusiasts would LOVE to see it, but most folks would be scared away by the cost (meaning less $$$ for BMW) :-(

]]> By: Dan http://www.bimmerfile.com/2009/11/14/the-e82-f20-1-series-m-cars-come-into-focus/comment-page-1/#comment-9598 Dan Sat, 14 Nov 2009 16:22:43 +0000 http://www.bimmerfile.com/?p=4741#comment-9598 <p>These decisions on not bringing these cars to the US continue to baffle me. It just doesn't make sense why you'd develop a car and not take it to your supposed largest market. Wouldn't it make more sense to target your largest market first, then think about elsewhere second?</p> These decisions on not bringing these cars to the US continue to baffle me. It just doesn’t make sense why you’d develop a car and not take it to your supposed largest market. Wouldn’t it make more sense to target your largest market first, then think about elsewhere second?

]]> By: Luis http://www.bimmerfile.com/2009/11/14/the-e82-f20-1-series-m-cars-come-into-focus/comment-page-1/#comment-9596 Luis Sat, 14 Nov 2009 15:10:07 +0000 http://www.bimmerfile.com/?p=4741#comment-9596 <p>"1M will feature 19″ wheels, huge fender flares, carbon fiber roof, trunk and hood and a..." ... Man, all this description almost made me get an orgasm! xD</p> “1M will feature 19″ wheels, huge fender flares, carbon fiber roof, trunk and hood and a…” … Man, all this description almost made me get an orgasm! xD

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