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	<title>Comments on: It&#8217;s Official: BMW Releases the BMW Z4 sDrive35iS</title>
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		<title>By: BimmerFile &#187; Archive &#187; Official: 2011 740i/Li and Z4sDrive35iS Pricing</title>
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		<dc:creator>BimmerFile &#187; Archive &#187; Official: 2011 740i/Li and Z4sDrive35iS Pricing</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Jan 2010 17:49:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;[...] Today at NAIAS BMWNA released the pricing of the new six cylinder 7 Series (740i/740Li) and the performance oriented Z4sdrive35iS. [...]&lt;/p&gt;
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		<title>By: Matt</title>
		<link>http://www.bimmerfile.com/2009/12/12/its-official-2011-bmw-z4sdrive35is/comment-page-1/#comment-10180</link>
		<dc:creator>Matt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Dec 2009 05:19:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;. . . they are in the end a business.  that&#039;s not a slight, just the fact.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;i was indifferent vis-a-vis the gearbox.  the manual was more involving and the choice i&#039;d make, but the DCT seemed to suit the character of the car.  it is a convertible and consequently a softer car, marginally less enthusiast oriented as a result.  but maybe this &quot;is&quot; &lt;b&gt;is&lt;/b&gt; more deserving of a standard box?&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>. . . they are in the end a business.  that&#8217;s not a slight, just the fact.</p>

<p>i was indifferent vis-a-vis the gearbox.  the manual was more involving and the choice i&#8217;d make, but the DCT seemed to suit the character of the car.  it is a convertible and consequently a softer car, marginally less enthusiast oriented as a result.  but maybe this &#8220;is&#8221; <b>is</b> more deserving of a standard box?</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Gabe</title>
		<link>http://www.bimmerfile.com/2009/12/12/its-official-2011-bmw-z4sdrive35is/comment-page-1/#comment-10175</link>
		<dc:creator>Gabe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Dec 2009 01:51:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;
  &lt;p&gt;Re: gearbox longevity…..plenty of other manufacturers have much more powerful engines than the twin-turbo N54 and their manual gearboxes seem to hold up just fine…Corvette, many Porsche models, Viper….so I can’t really understand / buy the logic that the internals can’t handle the torque or horsepower. Just my humble opinion. Perhaps it’s just BMW trying to steer their customers away from manual gearboxes.&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;p&gt;Has nothing to do with that they can&#039;t. They just didn&#039;t design the current manual to withstand that much torque. Why? Because of the cost of components and BMW&#039;s desire to always reign in costs.&lt;/p&gt;
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  <p>Re: gearbox longevity…..plenty of other manufacturers have much more powerful engines than the twin-turbo N54 and their manual gearboxes seem to hold up just fine…Corvette, many Porsche models, Viper….so I can’t really understand / buy the logic that the internals can’t handle the torque or horsepower. Just my humble opinion. Perhaps it’s just BMW trying to steer their customers away from manual gearboxes.</p>
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<p>Has nothing to do with that they can&#8217;t. They just didn&#8217;t design the current manual to withstand that much torque. Why? Because of the cost of components and BMW&#8217;s desire to always reign in costs.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: RJ</title>
		<link>http://www.bimmerfile.com/2009/12/12/its-official-2011-bmw-z4sdrive35is/comment-page-1/#comment-10168</link>
		<dc:creator>RJ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Dec 2009 18:06:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Ahhh...wonder when / if ever...we will see the mysterious Z2.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ahhh&#8230;wonder when / if ever&#8230;we will see the mysterious Z2.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: eager2own</title>
		<link>http://www.bimmerfile.com/2009/12/12/its-official-2011-bmw-z4sdrive35is/comment-page-1/#comment-10166</link>
		<dc:creator>eager2own</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Dec 2009 17:14:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I was very interested in this vehicle -- until I saw that it is not offered with manual. 
Let&#039;s hope the Z2 will.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was very interested in this vehicle &#8212; until I saw that it is not offered with manual. 
Let&#8217;s hope the Z2 will.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: RJ</title>
		<link>http://www.bimmerfile.com/2009/12/12/its-official-2011-bmw-z4sdrive35is/comment-page-1/#comment-10164</link>
		<dc:creator>RJ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Dec 2009 16:23:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Re: gearbox longevity.....plenty of other manufacturers have much more powerful engines than the twin-turbo N54 and their manual gearboxes seem to hold up just fine...Corvette, many Porsche models, Viper....so I can&#039;t really understand / buy the logic that the internals can&#039;t handle the torque or horsepower.  Just my humble opinion.  Perhaps it&#039;s just BMW trying to steer their customers away from manual gearboxes.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Re: gearbox longevity&#8230;..plenty of other manufacturers have much more powerful engines than the twin-turbo N54 and their manual gearboxes seem to hold up just fine&#8230;Corvette, many Porsche models, Viper&#8230;.so I can&#8217;t really understand / buy the logic that the internals can&#8217;t handle the torque or horsepower.  Just my humble opinion.  Perhaps it&#8217;s just BMW trying to steer their customers away from manual gearboxes.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Eliot R.</title>
		<link>http://www.bimmerfile.com/2009/12/12/its-official-2011-bmw-z4sdrive35is/comment-page-1/#comment-10160</link>
		<dc:creator>Eliot R.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Dec 2009 05:05:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;It makes sense that gearbox longevity is the reason we don&#039;t get a manual. But I&#039;ve always been curious just how conservative that situation is. Like has already been mentioned, it just seems very odd that BMW comes out and says, &quot;Here&#039;s our sportiest Z4 you can buy and it won&#039;t come with a proper gearbox!&quot; Just doesn&#039;t seem right.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;And if this engine is going into other models, that is great. But with my money, I&#039;m not touching it if it&#039;s only paired to a 7-speed DCT.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It makes sense that gearbox longevity is the reason we don&#8217;t get a manual. But I&#8217;ve always been curious just how conservative that situation is. Like has already been mentioned, it just seems very odd that BMW comes out and says, &#8220;Here&#8217;s our sportiest Z4 you can buy and it won&#8217;t come with a proper gearbox!&#8221; Just doesn&#8217;t seem right.</p>

<p>And if this engine is going into other models, that is great. But with my money, I&#8217;m not touching it if it&#8217;s only paired to a 7-speed DCT.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Gabe</title>
		<link>http://www.bimmerfile.com/2009/12/12/its-official-2011-bmw-z4sdrive35is/comment-page-1/#comment-10149</link>
		<dc:creator>Gabe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Dec 2009 20:53:45 +0000</pubDate>
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  &lt;p&gt;I’ll echo Eliot R’s comments….what message is BMWNA sending us when the highest-performing Z4 variant is not offered with a manual gearbox? Yes, I’m certain that the DCT is a faster gearbox….but who is the targeted customer when a manual gearbox option isn’t even mentioned in the BMWNA press release? No offense intended, but is it the 50+ guy shown in the official BMW video? I think even 50+ guys still like manual gearboxes!!&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;p&gt;Having driven both I can tell you &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.bimmerfile.com/2009/07/16/bimmerfile-reivew-2010-z4-35i/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;I vastly preferred the manual&lt;/a&gt;. My guess is that the manual box&#039;s internals weren&#039;t up to the task of that much torque. My hunch is based off of the 135i Performance Engine Kit and how it&#039;s power output is capped due to the longevity of the 6 speed manual - the same one found in the Z4.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Of course that still doesn&#039;t absolve BMW. They put a new manual six speed in the E46 ZHP. It would be nice if they could here.&lt;/p&gt;
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  <p>I’ll echo Eliot R’s comments….what message is BMWNA sending us when the highest-performing Z4 variant is not offered with a manual gearbox? Yes, I’m certain that the DCT is a faster gearbox….but who is the targeted customer when a manual gearbox option isn’t even mentioned in the BMWNA press release? No offense intended, but is it the 50+ guy shown in the official BMW video? I think even 50+ guys still like manual gearboxes!!</p>
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<p>Having driven both I can tell you <a href="http://www.bimmerfile.com/2009/07/16/bimmerfile-reivew-2010-z4-35i/" rel="nofollow">I vastly preferred the manual</a>. My guess is that the manual box&#8217;s internals weren&#8217;t up to the task of that much torque. My hunch is based off of the 135i Performance Engine Kit and how it&#8217;s power output is capped due to the longevity of the 6 speed manual &#8211; the same one found in the Z4.</p>

<p>Of course that still doesn&#8217;t absolve BMW. They put a new manual six speed in the E46 ZHP. It would be nice if they could here.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: RJ</title>
		<link>http://www.bimmerfile.com/2009/12/12/its-official-2011-bmw-z4sdrive35is/comment-page-1/#comment-10146</link>
		<dc:creator>RJ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Dec 2009 18:20:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I&#039;ll echo Eliot R&#039;s comments....what message is BMWNA sending us when the highest-performing Z4 variant is not offered with a manual gearbox?  Yes, I&#039;m certain that the DCT is a faster gearbox....but who is the targeted customer when a manual gearbox option isn&#039;t even mentioned in the BMWNA press release?  No offense intended, but is it the 50+ guy shown in the official BMW video?  I think even 50+ guys still like manual gearboxes!!&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ll echo Eliot R&#8217;s comments&#8230;.what message is BMWNA sending us when the highest-performing Z4 variant is not offered with a manual gearbox?  Yes, I&#8217;m certain that the DCT is a faster gearbox&#8230;.but who is the targeted customer when a manual gearbox option isn&#8217;t even mentioned in the BMWNA press release?  No offense intended, but is it the 50+ guy shown in the official BMW video?  I think even 50+ guys still like manual gearboxes!!</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: RJ</title>
		<link>http://www.bimmerfile.com/2009/12/12/its-official-2011-bmw-z4sdrive35is/comment-page-1/#comment-10145</link>
		<dc:creator>RJ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Dec 2009 18:00:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Michael...that last comment of yours is intriguing....share some addtl details, pls!!&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Michael&#8230;that last comment of yours is intriguing&#8230;.share some addtl details, pls!!</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Michael</title>
		<link>http://www.bimmerfile.com/2009/12/12/its-official-2011-bmw-z4sdrive35is/comment-page-1/#comment-10144</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Dec 2009 17:46:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Forgot to mention- People should use their imaginations and think of other models and how this engine will fit in Sports editions..&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Forgot to mention- People should use their imaginations and think of other models and how this engine will fit in Sports editions..</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Eliot R.</title>
		<link>http://www.bimmerfile.com/2009/12/12/its-official-2011-bmw-z4sdrive35is/comment-page-1/#comment-10123</link>
		<dc:creator>Eliot R.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Dec 2009 05:25:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Interesting... it made sense for BMW to offer an M color on a car like this. Thanks for the info.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting&#8230; it made sense for BMW to offer an M color on a car like this. Thanks for the info.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Michael</title>
		<link>http://www.bimmerfile.com/2009/12/12/its-official-2011-bmw-z4sdrive35is/comment-page-1/#comment-10118</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Dec 2009 01:49:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;It&#039;s Melbourne Red Metallic.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s Melbourne Red Metallic.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Eliot R.</title>
		<link>http://www.bimmerfile.com/2009/12/12/its-official-2011-bmw-z4sdrive35is/comment-page-1/#comment-10117</link>
		<dc:creator>Eliot R.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Dec 2009 01:42:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Don&#039;t like the silver mirror caps. Thought the same thing about stealing a page from Audi.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Otherwise, really, really like it. M-like performance but probably won&#039;t command a M-like price markup. Would prefer to get it with a proper gearbox, though.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Anyone know what this specific shade of red is? Is it just the standard Crimson Red? It looks a shade darker in these pics... But I might just be seeing things.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Don&#8217;t like the silver mirror caps. Thought the same thing about stealing a page from Audi.</p>

<p>Otherwise, really, really like it. M-like performance but probably won&#8217;t command a M-like price markup. Would prefer to get it with a proper gearbox, though.</p>

<p>Anyone know what this specific shade of red is? Is it just the standard Crimson Red? It looks a shade darker in these pics&#8230; But I might just be seeing things.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: lava</title>
		<link>http://www.bimmerfile.com/2009/12/12/its-official-2011-bmw-z4sdrive35is/comment-page-1/#comment-10115</link>
		<dc:creator>lava</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Dec 2009 23:33:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;There is a product for M here if they make one with a fixed carbon roof.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is a product for M here if they make one with a fixed carbon roof.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: BMW 2011 Z4 sDrive35is range topping Z4 unveiled !&#160;&#124;&#124;&#160;BIMMERPOST = BMW Forum, BMW News and BMW Blog</title>
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		<dc:creator>BMW 2011 Z4 sDrive35is range topping Z4 unveiled !&#160;&#124;&#124;&#160;BIMMERPOST = BMW Forum, BMW News and BMW Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Dec 2009 23:18:22 +0000</pubDate>
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