What Did SCOTT26 Talk About This Week?

Scott26 is well known in the BMW community as being the number one BMW insider. There are plenty of guesses regarding what position he holds within the Group, but one thing is for sure, his information is very accurate and most welcome during long waits between product announcements. For your reading pleasure, we thought it would be a good idea to quote all his comments this week in one central location. If you want the live feed, don’t hesitate to visit Bimmerpost.

On MotorAuthority Bashing the 3.0 CSL Hommage: >Wow what a hated and biased article. It had its usual BMW hate shopping list namely Bangle. It has become taboo to blame Bangle for everything when he was just doing his job to great success as it drove sales up to which there was no great loss as result of media feedback as the good thing about participating in a global market is that what does not work in one market could work in about 5-10 others. Please pray that some of you did not respond to that piece of nonsense because Bangle did have a hand in many of the cars mentioned in the comments that individuals think they have a Bangle-Free car.

On an alternative rendering of the 3.0 CSL Hommage: >Awful. Too generic.

On the unveiling of the 3.0 CSL Hommage: >With people seem to be going off on the design here is some forthcoming facts you should be aware of. > >The Concept shows some interesting movements within BMW design. If we start at the front of the car and if we include the Vision Future Luxury also. We see the start of a new trend that enters with the incoming new 7er – The L-shaped headlight and although we will see the feature become more angular with the next 5er and eventually the 3er it indicates all core models will feature L-Shaped headlights. The Concept shows the direction for the Coupe models with the reverse L shape headlight. > Many years ago we prepared you for the three dimensional kidney grille which is prominent on many BMW models today. Now we have to prepare you for the larger kidney grille introduced with the Vision Future Luxury. Such a grille will be a feature of the new BMW X7. And as engines become sophisticated they will need more cooling and one potential move is to enlarge the kidney grille which will be seen on future models. > >But the idea is also to create more hardcore versions of its current M models especially in Coupe format. The first BMW M3 CSL was criticised for being just a standard M3 and the M3 GTS was criticised for being an M3 with an aftermarket spoiler, even though their understated ness illustrated they were far from regular. > >The concept is to show an internal idea on mixing the past philosophy of CSL with today’s advancement in materials to revive the lucrative CSL insignia for the ultimate M models. Which means that the cars will be more definitive than their standard versions even more. The first example to take the exclusive road will be the all new BMW M4 GTS which will be shown as a preview concept at Pebble Beach in August. > >Essentially the M4 GTS will be a production model of the BMW M4 Safety Car which was the M4 GTS “Concept”. In 2016 BMW M will provide its first look at concepts of two models which will wear the CSL badge as well as more pronounced bodywork, Efficiency technology and lightweight features to illustrate exciting and lucrative possibilities for progressive performance.

On the public response to the 3.0 CSL Hommage:

It’s absolutely perfect. It also illustrates ideas for a very special M edition model in the planning emphasizing nostalgia with performance and lightweight materials.
You need to get familiar with the large grille as this car has shades of the BMW G20 especially in its front end. Look at how the headlights follow the same evolutionary style as the F30.
Remember it’s a Homage and therefore something that shows respect to its original idea but progressed to today’s requirements in regards to aerodynamics, design and technology in order to bring forth a modern reinterpretation of an original concept but to today’s standards. It also shows how lucrative “CSL” is for BMW and how the company intended to use the legendary badge to identify the absolute pinnacle of performance and materials.

On the lack of vivid colors for the M2: >We may see an M2 model in Golf Yellow.

On the public debut of the M2: >No we have the Cannes Preview for the new BMW 7er. As well as the Villa d’este. No M2 yet, it’s not time.

On a rumored M3 Touring: >Well, I have not heard or seen anything regarding an F31 based 3er Touring as of yet.

I would love an F11 M5 Touring as well as a G81 M5 Touring as I currently still own the E61 M5 Touring which is still like new. It depends on the business plan. Whilst the super fast Touring’s for the M5 and M3 would be more inclined for Europe the global perspective would be for the SUV variants. And it would be these markets that have the largest voice.

>Even though the Mercedes E-Klasse is the definitive premium wagon model in the US it is suffering the same lack of interest as the BMW 3er Touring. And again the answer is Americans do not want wagons, they want SUVs, which is why they have shifted focus to the new GLE models. It’s also why the upcoming GLC is a higher priority than a C-Klasse T-Modell. Now that Mercedes have expanded their SUVS line-up I have heard the next generation like BMW is another US casualty because of increasing demand for SUV models which Mercedes have expanded just as BMW have done to reflect customer demand. > >You may mock the 5er Gran Turismo but is it really a failure if its sales years indicates they sold more units than the previous 5er Touring each year it was on sale? The 3er Gran Turismo outsells the 3er Touring in North America as does the BMW X1. Expect more focus on the F48 when the new X1 is launched and all the more reason for the announcement of the BMW X2.

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  • NoRumors

    A lot of stuff are non-sense. A LOT. The G20 design was not even approved yet, 3 different proposals are still being looked at.

    You guys should know better, most of his predictions do NOT turn out to be true.

    • Bimmerfile Michael

      There is a lot of “feelers” in this latest string. There is a new “Scott” once again under the same name and managed by the same handler. The CSL has designs that will come to market… This comes from a very high ranking BMW person familiar with future products that is not Scott. BMW is missing the high end performance market as a niche it has not tapped and there will be future offerings for global markets to hit it. The CSL moniker will be reused with a future product and will have sophisticated aero. the M4 GTS will make it to the US this go as the engine will not activate the water injection during the EPA test and will not penalize the product… there will be no cage obviously and CF will be abundant. Final packaging of the water injection takes up limited space in the trunk floor and does not impact storage space. The system is quite genius. The CF suspension that was tested with the M4 may finally come to market…. There were some ideas and completed projects with the M4 that were left behind when the profiteers looks it over but they will look yo recoup those costs through a limited edition model. The M2 will pickup where the 1M left off but it will be even more muscular and have newer technology on a more advanced chassis. As for the G20…. That is still up in the air as the focus on finishing the new X1 for launch soon is the main push. Lets not forget that every model moving forward will over some form of hybridization to get fuel.economy in check, but that does not mean less performance as BMW is looking at electrification as a win win.

      • Truth

        Same Scott, I can guarantee you that. A person wish SOME knowledge, lots of guessing and sometimes common sense. Many people with some knowledge about the company can “predict things”. He gets called out on GCF all the time for making false claims that 1 year later turned out to be doozies.

        The G20 is not up in the air, the design phase is ongoing, BMW doesn’t stop a design phase cause a product is launched, the design team moved away from the X1 last year.

        Scott called the M4 GTS, while a magazine said CSL, then he went back and said CSL too. I followed that thread.

        Again, at best 50-50 with his predictions, at best.

        • BMW future

          sorry but what I meant is that the G20 is not final and since marketing has moved onto the X1 to launch mode feelers are being put out.Scott is a marketing exercise and is a group of people… There are different patterns to the writing when analyzed and was admitted by BMW execs in the past.

          • Truth

            BMW never admitted anything, same pattern if you read, just improved English over the years. Believe me, he is wrong more than he is right. It’s a single person, with some knowledge, certainly not BMW sanctioned. 100% sure

          • Herr26

            G20 was chosen last week as I reported at BMWs Proving Grounds outside of Munich. The engineering and development work now begins for the first prototypes to begin testing in the Winter.

        • Herr26

          I despise individuals who read my threads and interpret them differently from what I initially said in order to dispute my credibility. I can assure you and I found that thread on Bimmerpost and no way do I say that the GTS would be the CSL as both are intended to be very different models. The GTS Concept we can say was the MOTO GP car shown at Geneva. But there will be a production concept car that will be shown at Pebble Beach which will be the car in production format with one of the four frozen paint finishes that will be available to order on the production car.

          I actually disputed that the GTS would be renamed as the CSL as I was participating in the IMW in Munich where the car was presented as the GTS. There will be a CSL model of the M4 and we will see the first ideas as a concept during 2016 as BMW M get radical. If you think that the X M models and Turbo charging etc pissed off enthusiasts. Then prepare for the first BMW M car with eDrive.

  • Tristan

    anyone remember the 2007 cs concept? it was generally liked with its bigger kidney grills. now look at the luxury vision concept that scott mentioned. they took the bigger grills and ran with it and also added slimmer lights and taillights that everyone puts on their concept cars. it doesnt work. maybe my taste have changed. i liked bmw’s since the early E series cars and i just dont find any new designs appealing. the current m5 and m6 will be the last cars that it’s designs harken back to original bmw designs. i wonder why porsche is the only company can still look the same and still look good until now. the new c class has the elegant/sporty design cohesion that the f30 can only wish for. this is just my opinion, but an opinion shared with many friends of mine that are old bmw fans. how much can bmw change their own individual design language to appeal to more people without loosing what made their cars stand out from others?

  • Herr26

    Let’s get back to the CSL Hommage now that I have made my statement.

    Under the CSLs bonnet lies the next interpretation of Power eDrive. So far we have shown you “Das Thing” the name given to the Power eDrive 5er Gran Turismo which generates via six cylinder and electric motor to produce 670 PS. But in official press release we advise of three specific power outputs of this new performance drivetrain being developed at BMW. The power under the CSL generates 560 PS. But this one is particularly special it is further tweaked by the M Division to suit the character of a BMW M car.

    And what I am hearing it seems that there is a motion to use the CSL badge for more progressive and innovative M models and to make CSL models the test bed for exclusive performance and progressive innovation and that includes eDrive assisted drivetrains. In a way it has come full circle on how Motorsport innovation was showcased with the original CSL.

    The next variant of Power eDrive has not been shown but it is the “entry” if you want to call it that with about 460 PS which will launch in the next generation 5er and then be included in models from the 5er upwards.

    The first BMW M eDrive car is not as far away as you may think.