Update on Advanced Diesels

There have been many questions, comments and wishes from our readers in regards to the upcoming release of the BMW Advanced Diesels. We now have some further answers and many of our original beliefs have been validated by sources close to these vehicles. You can view our original story here

There will only initially be two models for the US and BMW will use these to gauge the fledgling market and future model offerings; the 335d sedan (rwd) and the X5 xDrive35d (name verified) both will be 2009 model year vehicles. So no, is the answer to the 5er, and the sport-wagons.

The options packages should be very similar if not identical to the 335i for the 335d. The X5 options will generally be the same as the current 3.0si model rather than the 4.8i, the third row seating will remain an option as the additional Bluetech equipment does not interfere (an original concern).

There will be only one transmission choice and that is the updated ZF six speed auto, it apparently is one of the only transmissions that can handle all that torque (425+ lbs.) and keep the car street drivable. So it will shift quickly and be responsive. It will feature Steptronic and sport paddles should be an available option when combined with the sport package. The X5 will still have the updated shifter, the 3 will not.

A filler for the AdBlue urea tanks will be located on the driver ‘s side rear bumper which was visible in our photos from the NY auto show. It will be body colored but it will still be visible which many may feel looks bad or like a blemish to the smooth lines of the bumper.

With the current exchange rate situation of the dollar being worth substantially less than the Euro, the additional cost of this new diesel technology plus the addition of the SCR system a price premium of some sort in the US is a safe bet. This is rather than a discount that is currently the norm for diesels in Europe when compared to their gasoline engined counterparts. BMW is months out from pricing these cars but there is little hope for anything but an increase we were told; how much is still up in the air.

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  • Chaz

    Diesel gas is sold at a discount in Germany, not the cars. BMW’s Diesel engines cost more.

    If you want to check the option box for a diesel on the 3 series sedan in Germany, you will add +3,300€, +1050€, +650€ or +3050€ for the 320, 325, 330, and 335 models respectively. That is a $4,760 premium for the 335d over the 335i.

    This article is more believable than the earlier one that claimed the 320d (I believe BMW’s most popular car in Germany) would be heading here. Having a car that gets twice the gas mileage of a 335 would be nice, but may not fit BMW’s image of itself. Too bad for us.

    Although a big increase for gas milage is a big plus, adding a large premium for diesel fuel in the US, and a large premium for the diesel engine makes the economic equation less desirable in the US vs Europe.

  • eager2own

    I assume the premium in price (at least as to the X5) refers to a premium over the 3.0si — not the a premium above the 4.8i . . . correct? or is the X5d (I refuse to use the full name) expected to cost more than the 4.8?

  • eager2own

    . . . and meant to comment on my disappointment that the 5-series wagon in diesel is not in the pipeline for the US. I knew it wasn’t part of the initial launch for 2009 models, but was hoping it was planned for 2010 models.
    I guess I’ll have to wait out the success of the 335 and X5 platforms before I talk to the dealer about ED for the 5-series.

  • Diesel gas is sold at a discount in Germany, not the cars. BMW’s Diesel engines cost more.

    True, but in many aspects the diesels outperform their petrol counterparts so usually then next highest petrol is used for comparison (so I have been told, and also the reason Top Gear compared the 535d to the V8 and not the inline 6). I should have been more clear.

    This article is more believable than the earlier one that claimed the 320d (I believe BMW’s most popular car in Germany) would be heading here.

    You did not see that here!

    I assume the premium in price (at least as to the X5) refers to a premium over the 3.0si — not the a premium above the 4.8i

    You are correct and is the reason packaging will be based on the 3.0si.

    I guess I’ll have to wait out the success of the 335 and X5 platforms before I talk to the dealer about ED for the 5-series.

    I think you are going to waiting some time, as people can not seem to understand that even though diesel is more expensive it is more efficient…. this is a hard concept for some to grasp. Also, the 3 was chosen because of the amount sold and the client base is younger and more open to the idea of diesel. BMW is estimating at 10,000-15,000 sales total.

  • Chaz

    Looking back on the 320d comment, it must have been directed to the european Market.

    The comment was from the from the link in March 13th’s post: E90 3 Series Gets a Mid-Cycle Nip & Tuck Sections: E90 3 Series Mar 13th.

    With a url name like World Car Fans I should not assume their comments apply to North America

    “In September we rattled on about the possibility of BMW fitting its groundbreaking 2.0-litre turbocharged 204 bhp diesel engine, currently sitting in the 123d, in the E90 sedan and E91 touring range. Our sources say a 323d will be available in 2009.”

    Must be another Euro Only car. Too bad for us.

  • SoCalPete

    Can you shed some light on the reason(s) for difference in horsepower between the Euro-Spec. (286 hp) and U.S.-spec. (265 hp) diesel engines? I presume they are the same engine, is it the addition of urea injection for U.S. engine? It’s interesting the torque stay the same.

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